In this second part of a three-episode podcast, Penang Institute Executive Director Dato’ Dr. Ooi Kee Beng speaks with Fauwaz Abdul Aziz on the significance and implications, both conceptual as well as political-economic, of ‘Nusantara’ for Malaysia. Its significance, Dr Ooi suggests, lies in its potential for a radical rethinking of power/politics, identity, nationhood, and economics.